Router in Bridge Mode

[Brian]

Szia!  I have Net L fiber Internet.  Is it possible to configure the router into bridge mode so I can use my our router/firewall?

 

Brian

[btz]

@Brian

Hi

Yes. Your router provides the firewall functions in bridge mode. But in the case of Fiberglass Internet there is no bridge mode, there is a PPPOE passthrough mode. 

[Brian]

Thank you for the quick response.  I'm unsure what PPOE passthrough mode gets me or how it's configured.  I would like to use my own firewall  (Unifi USG) and it obtaining an Internet address (not a private IP address due to double NAT).

 

Do I need to request a different fiber modem?

[abit]

4 órája, Brian írta:

Thank you for the quick response.  I'm unsure what PPOE passthrough mode gets me or how it's configured.  I would like to use my own firewall  (Unifi USG) and it obtaining an Internet address (not a private IP address due to double NAT).

 

Do I need to request a different fiber modem?

Which HGW or ONT do u have?

Szerkesztve ekkor: 2019. június 6. Szerkesztő: abit

[Brian]

@ abit I have the Sagemcom F@st 5655v2.

Szerkesztve ekkor: 2019. június 7. Szerkesztő: Brian

[abit]

5 órája, Brian írta:

@ abit I have the Sagemcom F@st 5655v2.

You'll need to activate the PPPoE passthrough mode in the gateway's settings.

1. Goto http://192.168.1.1 in your browser. (it can be Chrome, Opera, etc.)
2. Login with your user and password.
3. Find Internet Connectivity in the settings. 
4. Choose Basic, IPv4,
5. scroll down, and the PPPoE passthrough will be *****. 
6. Turn it on, click 'Apply'

That's all!

  

[btz]

@Brian

You can turn it on in Web based contolpanel of device

Don't forget to delete your pppoe username and password at sagemcom.  You can only use 1 pppoe session on 1 device. 

Yes In Pppoe passthrough mod You can use your own device as firewall. 

[Brian]

@abit  @BTZ  Thank you for the tips and screenshots.  I'm at the house next week and will try this.  Not sure if Telekom provided a sheet with the PPOE credentials.

 

Will this affect IPTV in anyway?  Can I plug the IPTV STB into my own switch?  Is it possible to get IPTV credentials and use an IPTV app on my Apple TV or computer?

[btz]

@Brain

If you dont know your pppoe passvord and username, You can change it at online customer support site or by phone.

You can also use IPTV to connect to the Sagemcom device and connect the Internet to your own device. You can use a switch between Sagemcom and IPTV set top boxes.

Does not have credentials for IPTV, you can use it with with set top boxes provided by Telekom, plug amn play mode.

On a laptop and computer you can use the TVGO service, which is free with Telekom IPTV.

Szerkesztve ekkor: 2019. június 7. Szerkesztő: btz

[Brian]

@BTZ You're amazing.  Thank you for all the help!

[Brian]

Updates..

All went very smoothly.  I reset the password on the Telekom PPPoE service and successfully enabled PPPoE Passthrough on the Sagemcom device.  I configured my Unifi USG router/firewall and all is good.

I connected the Telekom STB to my switch, however, it does not appear to be working.  All other devices connected to my switch and wifi are working.  Suggestions?

[btz]

@Brian

Do you use an IGMP ability switch? 

[Brian]

@btz I have Unifi PoE switch.  I'll check out if it supports IGMP.

[Brian]

@btz I'm continuing to research IGMP support... I'm not able to test it until I return.  I have noticed a difference in speed tests since configuring as PPPoE passthrough.

Prior to configuring PPPoE passthrough, my speed test was about 913/928 Mbps (down/up).

After configuring PPPoE passthrough, my speed test is about 400/900 Mbps (down/up).  Perhaps I need to do testing over a longer period of time.

I do not believe this is an issue with my Unifi Security Gateway... others report 1000 Mbps performance.  When I can, I'll do more performance testing.  Any thoughts?  Is this a limitation of the Sagemcom router when using PPPoE passthrough?

I'm looking into pros/cons of disabling PPPoE passthrough and configuring my firewall behind the Sagemcom (i.e. double NAT configuration).

[zoli62]

16 órája, Brian írta:

@btz I'm continuing to research IGMP support... I'm not able to test it until I return.  I have noticed a difference in speed tests since configuring as PPPoE passthrough.

Prior to configuring PPPoE passthrough, my speed test was about 913/928 Mbps (down/up).

After configuring PPPoE passthrough, my speed test is about 400/900 Mbps (down/up).  Perhaps I need to do testing over a longer period of time.

I do not believe this is an issue with my Unifi Security Gateway... others report 1000 Mbps performance.  When I can, I'll do more performance testing.  Any thoughts?  Is this a limitation of the Sagemcom router when using PPPoE passthrough?

I'm looking into pros/cons of disabling PPPoE passthrough and configuring my firewall behind the Sagemcom (i.e. double NAT configuration).

You should try to connect the IPTV STB not to your own switch, but directly to Sagemcom. So what bandwidth are you experiencing?

[Brian]

@zoli62  With PPPoE Enabled, I connected the IPTV STB directly to the Sagemcom router.  It did not appear to work.  I should do more testing.  I may have turned off DHCP server on the Sagemcom as well.

Are you saying that the STB will continue to work when connected to the Sagemcom and PPPoE is enabled?

 

[btz]

@Brian

I don't know about any limitation when you use an own device in PPPOE passthrough mode. There are not a speciall settings in Sagemcom what what couses similar problems. 

Unfortunately, If ISP devicie works well, Telekom cannot guarantee the operation of your own device.

[btz]

Ekkor: 2019. 11. 14. at 13:46, Brian írta:

Are you saying that the STB will continue to work when connected to the Sagemcom and PPPoE is enabled?

IPTV operation is not dependent on PPPOE

[Brian]

@btz I agree, PPPoE passthrough is independent of IPTV.  The issue appears to be IGMP support on my switch.  When I return I need to do some more performance testing...

1. I'll do more testing with Unifi Security Gateway (USG).  Possibly connecting my computer directly to the USG and avoid my switch.  I believe the issue is that I need to set MTU on my USG to 1300 and re-do the speed tests.

2. I will confirm performance of USG when PPPoE passthrough is disabled (i.e. using a double NAT configuration).

3. If possible, I will even connect my computer directly to the Sagemcom and configure PPPoE on my computer and test performance.

Thank you again for all the help.  I wont be back until February to test.

Szerkesztve ekkor: 2019. november 18. Szerkesztő: Brian

[btz]

@Brian

Welcome, We will wait you and your test results.

[Brian]

@btz @zoli62 What't I'm trying to say about IPTV not working when PPPoE is enabled is that on the Sagemcom I have to remove PPPoE credentials (only one device can use PPPoE credentials at a time).  I assume the Sagemcom will not route Internet traffic for devices (such as the IPTV STB) connected directly to one of the Sagemcom LAN ports.  I never tested this.

[btz]

12 perce, Brian írta:

@btz @zoli62 What't I'm trying to say about IPTV not working when PPPoE is enabled is that on the Sagemcom I have to remove PPPoE credentials (only one device can use PPPoE credentials at a time).  I assume the Sagemcom will not route Internet traffic for devices (such as the IPTV STB) connected directly to one of the Sagemcom LAN ports.  I never tested this.

IPTV working is independent of PPPoE credentials. PPPoE is only for Internet, not for VoIP or IPTV. Not matter PPPOE is included or not in Sagemcom, IPTV will work.

Szerkesztve ekkor: 2019. november 18. Szerkesztő: btz

[Zölcsi]

Did you get anything?
I have the same problem

[Brian]

@zolcsi Good timing.  Because of Covid I have not been home in a very long time.  I'm on my way home now and will be there today.  Over the coming weeks I will be troubleshooting the problem.  I had someone connect the the cable as BTZ described, however it didn't work.  I suspect it's related to DHCP that I disabled on the Sagecom router.

 

[Brian]

@Zolcsák my mention wasn't working in the previous post.  Hope this alerts you of the response.

 

[Zölcsi]

there are some posts ***** but i don't really understand

https://community.ui.com/questions/Bell-PPPoE-and-IPTV-with-FTTH-Guide-configuration-and-tidbits-/a39f1e68-2fc5-4abe-b16c-832a09bc72e8

https://community.ui.com/questions/Edgerouter-Lite-Getting-rid-of-Bell-Canadas-Homehub2000-Internet-AND-IPTV-FTTH/fc3d22ca-af35-4c37-9ee9-4d1ec0be2f11

 

https://community.ui.com/questions/IGMPv3-Support/747a1b8f-7c79-4ae5-b44c-2beb85e37772